New Holland Baler Service Manual Super 69
I am not familiar with the super 69. Banana bales on a non-wad board NH baler are usually caused by the packer forks delivering more hay to one side of the chamber than the other. The remedy is to adjust the penetration of the packer forks.
[403019] - Parts Manual Nh Baler Super 69 this is the operators manual for the 69 super haybine manufactured by new holland new holland square baler manuals ordering parts new holland super.
To determine left and right, stand at the back of the baler.If the long side of the bale is on the right of the bale (the side cut by the baler knife) then more hay has to be packed into the left side. To achieve this, adjust the throw of the packer forks further into the chamber.
After making the adjustment, turn the baler over by hand to make sure the packer forks are not impacted by the plunger. By adjusting the throw of the forks you also vary the timing of the forks to the plunger. If impact occurs then adjust the packer fork timing by advancing the packer fork position relative to the plunger. The string tension on a NH is equal because the tensioner spring is centrally located and pressure of hay on the strings reaches its maximum only after the strings are tied and the bale moves clear of the hay dogs that held the hay in position for the knotters to work.
Banana bales can be caused by hay dogs not working due to rust or spring breakage. There are either two or three hay dogs at the top of the chamber and the bottom and stop hay rebounding toward the plunger once the plunger finishes compressing the hay and starts withdrawing to allow the next hay to enter the chamber. The hay dogs are like a spring loaded wedge that allows hay to pass one way only. Look down the hay chute from the chamber, right at the start of the chute are the dogs held into the chute by a twist spring, dogs frozon in or out of the chute by rust on their shaft or that do not return into yhe chute under spring pressure allows hay to spring back into the chamber reducing the amount of hay that can be put into the chamber on that side in the next stroke. Another cause of banana bales is a lost bale wedge. Wedges are mounted on the insides of the bale chute on the vertical walls. Made of sheet metal they bolt to the sides and there is provision to mount 3 or 4 pairs down the length of the chute.
Usually the first pair is immediately outside the chamber at the start of the chute. Not always mounted in pairs, some operators use asymmetrical positioning to correct bale shape problems instead of adjusting the packer forks or if the packer fork adjustment is at its max and there are still bale shape issues.
A super 69 working properly should give you 1000 bales pa with less than a day's operation. If this description does not help then a few pics of the packer system of the dogs and wedges would maybe help me. I am not familiar with the super 69. Banana bales on a non-wad board NH baler are usually caused by the packer forks delivering more hay to one side of the chamber than the other. The remedy is to adjust the penetration of the packer forks. To determine left and right, stand at the back of the baler.If the long side of the bale is on the right of the bale (the side cut by the baler knife) then more hay has to be packed into the left side.
To achieve this, adjust the throw of the packer forks further into the chamber. After making the adjustment, turn the baler over by hand to make sure the packer forks are not impacted by the plunger. By adjusting the throw of the forks you also vary the timing of the forks to the plunger. If impact occurs then adjust the packer fork timing by advancing the packer fork position relative to the plunger. The string tension on a NH is equal because the tensioner spring is centrally located and pressure of hay on the strings reaches its maximum only after the strings are tied and the bale moves clear of the hay dogs that held the hay in position for the knotters to work.
New Holland Baler Service Manual Super 69 Square
Banana bales can be caused by hay dogs not working due to rust or spring breakage. There are either two or three hay dogs at the top of the chamber and the bottom and stop hay rebounding toward the plunger once the plunger finishes compressing the hay and starts withdrawing to allow the next hay to enter the chamber. The hay dogs are like a spring loaded wedge that allows hay to pass one way only. Look down the hay chute from the chamber, right at the start of the chute are the dogs held into the chute by a twist spring, dogs frozon in or out of the chute by rust on their shaft or that do not return into yhe chute under spring pressure allows hay to spring back into the chamber reducing the amount of hay that can be put into the chamber on that side in the next stroke. Another cause of banana bales is a lost bale wedge.
Wedges are mounted on the insides of the bale chute on the vertical walls. Made of sheet metal they bolt to the sides and there is provision to mount 3 or 4 pairs down the length of the chute. Usually the first pair is immediately outside the chamber at the start of the chute.
Not always mounted in pairs, some operators use asymmetrical positioning to correct bale shape problems instead of adjusting the packer forks or if the packer fork adjustment is at its max and there are still bale shape issues. A super 69 working properly should give you 1000 bales pa with less than a day's operation. If this description does not help then a few pics of the packer system of the dogs and wedges would maybe help me It's new math see- Coondle is to balers as Hay Wilson is to windrow moisture-savvy? The pics look good and yu obviously took them upside down because they look the right way up to me Downunder!
The baler appears to me to be a missing a hay dog on the right side of the chamber. I cannot zoom in sufficiently on the thumbnails to get a better look. The pics seem to show a hay dog in the centre top and the left top of the chamber: is this correct? There appears to be three relief notches in the plunger (one for each hay dog) to allow the plunger to return back past the sprung-down hay dogs after compressing the hay into the chute, and there doesn't appear to be a hay dog in the top right of the chamber, there being a small rectangle of light in the top of the chute just to the left of the feeder tines. The knotter view shows a rectangular hole below the right knotter firming up to me that a hay dog is missing The packer tines (to use the correct term) are just clearing the chamber and the feeder tines are showing to the right of the chamber. There also appears to be the start of a accretion of chaff and gum in the top front left of the chute above the front pair of side hay wedges.
This is not enough to cause a problem yet, and such accretions usually appear on the top right of the chamber caused by accumulation of chaff particles generated by the knife and building up glued together by sap from the hay. Often appears in hay that has had a top-dressing of nitrogen in the later stages of growth. Very hard to diagnose with hay in the chute but the manifestation is a pushed down leading top right corner of the bales. The hammer on the top of the baler (knotter view) may show a level of desperation, but take it from me, threatening a baler does not cause problems to go away. For some reason balers are indifferent to the emotional status of owners and operators A picture of the carriage on which the packer tines and feeder tines are mounted (open the flap door just visible to the right on the knotter view) may well show where/how the packer tines can be adjusted to change the penetration into the ale chamber. I really meant the bale chamber but resort to an ale chamber could give you a better feeling When at the dealers for your springs try and get a look at the exploded view in the parts book/screen of the hay dog setup and confirm if 2 or 3 dogs on the top, and if 3 get the other one. It is after all only money.
Paint looks OK for a machine of that age even if it has ad a repaint. It has hydraulic tension and probably rollers on the plunger. There is no reason once adjusted that it would not happily bale 1000 bales a year for many years to come. There is a guy near me does thousands upon thousands each year, this year doing just shy of 60,000 with 2 balers one of which he bought secondhand in about 2006.